I don’t want protesters to be run over. I do think that the blocking of public roads, streets and bridges is an act of privilege and arrogance that has not only not changed anything in Gaza but has alienated those who might otherwise be supportive.
Protesting grants you no special dispensation to delay people who work from getting to their job, patients from getting to hospitals or kids going to school. People on the Golden Gate Bridge were delayed for hours, many having to urinate and defecate in public. Contending that this issue is more important than their daily lives is to privilege not only your views but your choices about how to spend your time. It is arrogant to be unmindful of how much this sort of thing engenders the exact opposite reaction, losing support for your cause. If you want to build support in a community, respect it.
I think the people being slaughtered in Gaza have been way more inconvenienced than any American stuck in traffic. Talk about privilege, seriously wtf.
The arrogance is you believing you have a right to peace and quiet, a right to a life free of disruptions. You have no such entitlement.
It’s funny you keep talking about “your cause” as if it wasn’t all of our tax dollars going to fund the genocide. You are not separate from this.
My word, people had defecate in their cars, you say? That’s very interesting, because people are already defecating in the streets all over the US every single day. Hundreds of thousands of Americans, whole entire families, actually LIVE in their cars with no jobs to go to and ever dwindling options. The height of privilege is believing you have the right to pretend you live in a country that delivers comfortable living to its citizens. It doesn’t, you don’t.
And besides, defecating in your car on your way to soul-sucking job that will probably fire you via text message pales in comparison to the ghoulish genocidal violence Israel inflicts on the Palestinian people every single day.
This is not *my* cause, it is everyone’s cause; it is the cause for Palestinian liberation. It is the cause for humanity. If being stuck in traffic jeopardized your support for the cause, then you had no principles to speak of in the first place.
Louisiana is trying to allow this and the people of New Orleans, full of street gatherings all year long, are fighting hard against these type of bills. It’s unfucking believable that we have to point out why these laws are dangerous, nevermind unconstitutional, and will be used to maim and kill innocent people in mass.
Cotton and his sycophants want to force the conflict they think their faction is equipped to have. They've become too used to dictating the framework of their issues, and the rules of engagement on those; and become ever more careless about their own vulnerabilities.
It's time to stop depending on useless Democrats to push back on these creatures; or waiting for the increasingly compliant media to expose them in any significant way.
It's time to declare Cotton et al. as the enemies they are; and find new means to treat them as such.
I respect the other views here, but I line up with John Fetterman, the senator from Pennsylvania: “, who said, “I don't know who needs to hear this, but blocking a bridge or berating folks in Starbucks isn't righteous, it just makes you an asshole.
Demand Hamas to send every hostage back home and surrender.”
John Fetterman is an asshole. As someone who voted for him and defended him when he had his psychological problems I know he lied his ass off to get elected. Now he’s showing his true colors and it’s not what many of us voted for. The point of blocking a road or a bridge is to make people pay attention. If protesters behaved themselves the opposition would ignore them.
When you say, “demand Hamas return all the hostages,” why didn’t you mention the thousands of Palestinian hostages taken by Israel before Oct 7th and the thousands more that Israel has taken since. Hamas took roughly 200 hostages and every idiot focuses on that and ignores the thousands of Palestinians taken hostage. Seriously wtf?
I think it would also be useful to point out that Hamas doesn't directly receive aid from the US, nor do they receive American-made weapons. IE, our tax dollars don't directly support Hamas. Israel/the IDF gets both of those things, and has for decades.
Why on earth would we protest Hamas when they aren't acting with the explicit blessing of our elected representatives?
Are you saying IDF is taking civilian hostages? I was not aware. Re the hostages, Hamas took, Israel has said it won’t stop hostilities until they are returned. Hamas could hasten the end of hostilities if it returns the hostsges. That’s what I was aligning with. BTW I voted for Fetterman also.
Bt’Selem in case you don’t know is a leading Israeli civil rights organization.
“At the end of September 2023, the Israel Prison Service (IPS) was holding 4,764 Palestinians in detention or in prison on what it defined “security” grounds, including 176 from the Gaza Strip.”
And that number was probably low because the IPS and the IDF stopped reporting the numbers to Bt’Selem. That was prior to Oct 7th and the numbers have skyrocketed since then.
A Nazi with a velvet glove (Democrat) is as dangerous as a Nazi with a chain mail glove (Republican). There is no "lesser evil" between the two.
I don’t want protesters to be run over. I do think that the blocking of public roads, streets and bridges is an act of privilege and arrogance that has not only not changed anything in Gaza but has alienated those who might otherwise be supportive.
So…protests shouldn’t inconvenience anyone? They’re not entertainment, they’re protests.
Protesting grants you no special dispensation to delay people who work from getting to their job, patients from getting to hospitals or kids going to school. People on the Golden Gate Bridge were delayed for hours, many having to urinate and defecate in public. Contending that this issue is more important than their daily lives is to privilege not only your views but your choices about how to spend your time. It is arrogant to be unmindful of how much this sort of thing engenders the exact opposite reaction, losing support for your cause. If you want to build support in a community, respect it.
I think the people being slaughtered in Gaza have been way more inconvenienced than any American stuck in traffic. Talk about privilege, seriously wtf.
The arrogance is you believing you have a right to peace and quiet, a right to a life free of disruptions. You have no such entitlement.
It’s funny you keep talking about “your cause” as if it wasn’t all of our tax dollars going to fund the genocide. You are not separate from this.
My word, people had defecate in their cars, you say? That’s very interesting, because people are already defecating in the streets all over the US every single day. Hundreds of thousands of Americans, whole entire families, actually LIVE in their cars with no jobs to go to and ever dwindling options. The height of privilege is believing you have the right to pretend you live in a country that delivers comfortable living to its citizens. It doesn’t, you don’t.
And besides, defecating in your car on your way to soul-sucking job that will probably fire you via text message pales in comparison to the ghoulish genocidal violence Israel inflicts on the Palestinian people every single day.
This is not *my* cause, it is everyone’s cause; it is the cause for Palestinian liberation. It is the cause for humanity. If being stuck in traffic jeopardized your support for the cause, then you had no principles to speak of in the first place.
What kind of privilege are you talking about?
Typical martinet musings from Tom Cotton. Maybe he can get Capitol riot sprinter Josh Hawley to lead his wish list brigade for him.
Louisiana is trying to allow this and the people of New Orleans, full of street gatherings all year long, are fighting hard against these type of bills. It’s unfucking believable that we have to point out why these laws are dangerous, nevermind unconstitutional, and will be used to maim and kill innocent people in mass.
…FUCK THIS INSANE COUNTRY
So...sit-in at Tom's house?
Tom Cotton is a racist POS!!! 💩
Treasonist Neo Nazi insurrectionist coward! May he rot in hell forever!
Cotton and his sycophants want to force the conflict they think their faction is equipped to have. They've become too used to dictating the framework of their issues, and the rules of engagement on those; and become ever more careless about their own vulnerabilities.
It's time to stop depending on useless Democrats to push back on these creatures; or waiting for the increasingly compliant media to expose them in any significant way.
It's time to declare Cotton et al. as the enemies they are; and find new means to treat them as such.
You’re wrong Ron Stockton. Dead wrong. There is definitely a greater evil, and it’s the repubs
I respect the other views here, but I line up with John Fetterman, the senator from Pennsylvania: “, who said, “I don't know who needs to hear this, but blocking a bridge or berating folks in Starbucks isn't righteous, it just makes you an asshole.
Demand Hamas to send every hostage back home and surrender.”
You lost me at “I line up with John Fetterman”.
John Fetterman is an asshole. As someone who voted for him and defended him when he had his psychological problems I know he lied his ass off to get elected. Now he’s showing his true colors and it’s not what many of us voted for. The point of blocking a road or a bridge is to make people pay attention. If protesters behaved themselves the opposition would ignore them.
Point taken Edward but the alternative was Dr Oz. Would that have been better?
I’m not sure. Fetterman is showing himself to be the same right wing idiot that Oz would have been.
And you didn’t answer my “hostage” question.
When you say, “demand Hamas return all the hostages,” why didn’t you mention the thousands of Palestinian hostages taken by Israel before Oct 7th and the thousands more that Israel has taken since. Hamas took roughly 200 hostages and every idiot focuses on that and ignores the thousands of Palestinians taken hostage. Seriously wtf?
I think it would also be useful to point out that Hamas doesn't directly receive aid from the US, nor do they receive American-made weapons. IE, our tax dollars don't directly support Hamas. Israel/the IDF gets both of those things, and has for decades.
Why on earth would we protest Hamas when they aren't acting with the explicit blessing of our elected representatives?
Are you saying IDF is taking civilian hostages? I was not aware. Re the hostages, Hamas took, Israel has said it won’t stop hostilities until they are returned. Hamas could hasten the end of hostilities if it returns the hostsges. That’s what I was aligning with. BTW I voted for Fetterman also.
Bt’Selem in case you don’t know is a leading Israeli civil rights organization.
“At the end of September 2023, the Israel Prison Service (IPS) was holding 4,764 Palestinians in detention or in prison on what it defined “security” grounds, including 176 from the Gaza Strip.”
And that number was probably low because the IPS and the IDF stopped reporting the numbers to Bt’Selem. That was prior to Oct 7th and the numbers have skyrocketed since then.
https://www.btselem.org/statistics/detainees_and_prisoners
I’m saying that the Israeli government has routinely been taking Palestinians hostage for decades.
If they are suspected criminals, they should have their day in court. If they were taken into custody for no reason, that’s wrong 100%.
Most are being held without charges
No big thing but if you have a good source on that I’d be interested. As I said I wasn’t aware that regular folks were being detained.
Understand completely